Eulalia
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« on: August 16, 2010, 08:02:25 PM » |
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I feel that Mr. Colfer didn't stay with the character development. I mean Artemis's relationship with Holy was totally different and Foaly acted like he was eating a different sack of oats, and Mulch almost faded into obscurity. The characters were interacting with each other like it was the second book. The humor was a great redeeming quality, and I always enjoy reading about Artemis Fowl no matter what
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« Reply #1 on: August 18, 2010, 07:35:14 PM » |
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The relationship wasn't with Artemis. It was with 'Orion' because he had Atlantis Complex. Just keep reading. You'll get it eventually.
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Eulalia
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« Reply #2 on: August 19, 2010, 03:53:35 AM » |
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No no. I'm not talking about Orion. I've read the whole book and I was just commenting on how ALL the characters were acting ,well, kinda out of character. I mean being crazy gives ARTEMIS a free ticket out of critic town, but the way the other characters (Holly, Butler, and Foaly) interacted with Artemis and each other felt different from how they acted in the 6th book. They acted like they just met each other and still had trust issues. As opposed to in the 6th one where every one was singing "kumbya" together. It just felt like Eion went backwards in the character development. I feel like he went back to the 1 or 2 second book
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« Reply #3 on: August 19, 2010, 04:44:16 AM » |
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No no. I'm not talking about Orion. I've read the whole book and I was just commenting on how ALL the characters were acting ,well, kinda out of character. I mean being crazy gives ARTEMIS a free ticket out of critic town, but the way the other characters (Holly, Butler, and Foaly) interacted with Artemis and each other felt different from how they acted in the 6th book. They acted like they just met each other and still had trust issues. As opposed to in the 6th one where every one was singing "kumbya" together. It just felt like Eion went backwards in the character development. I feel like he went back to the 1 or 2 second book
Well, how would you like to save a city from total destruction and have to deal with Artemis' disorder at the same time. To me the characters were not like in the second book, or holly would have ended up punching arty, to me they were MORE evolved than before, because Foaly still made those jokes, Holly and Artemis were trying to save a city, and butler, juliet and mulch were helping them. If anything this book made like the other ones look like child play!! |
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« Reply #4 on: August 19, 2010, 05:54:32 PM » |
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I feel that Mr. Colfer didn't stay with the character development. I mean Artemis's relationship with Holy was totally different and Foaly acted like he was eating a different sack of oats, and Mulch almost faded into obscurity. The characters were interacting with each other like it was the second book. The humor was a great redeeming quality, and I always enjoy reading about Artemis Fowl no matter what
Yeah, I agree. Did you also feel like near the end he kinda just ended it? Like he was writing, then was just like "I'm tired of writing this, so I'll just end it in the next few pages"? I loved the book, but.... |
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« Reply #5 on: August 20, 2010, 02:24:09 AM » |
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I feel that Mr. Colfer didn't stay with the character development. I mean Artemis's relationship with Holy was totally different and Foaly acted like he was eating a different sack of oats, and Mulch almost faded into obscurity. The characters were interacting with each other like it was the second book. The humor was a great redeeming quality, and I always enjoy reading about Artemis Fowl no matter what
Yeah, I agree. Did you also feel like near the end he kinda just ended it? Like he was writing, then was just like "I'm tired of writing this, so I'll just end it in the next few pages"? I loved the book, but.... Yeah, i kinda felt like it was just another book... I don't think it was a letdown i just think the characters personalities were a little off, and it felt like just another adventure.. there was not really a point in the first place. It wasn't exactly a letdown though |
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« Reply #6 on: August 20, 2010, 04:50:51 AM » |
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I don't think it was a letdown. I think some of the other characters acted a little strangely, but you could sense all the emotional and moral dilemmas. I think Artemis's complex was a cool idea, and really really funny as well. There's obviously a lot going on that Arty has to deal with, and it's the continual character development which sends the guilt-ridden boy into his frenzy.
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« Reply #7 on: August 24, 2010, 11:48:05 AM » |
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I know what you mean. I, for one, LOVED it, but I felt like him and Holly had somehow... sorta lost something in their relationship. I still love it, but I hope that, if he writes an eighth book (and I REALLY hope he will), they get their relationship back.
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« Reply #8 on: August 29, 2010, 09:12:25 PM » |
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I will agree with the original post in this thread; the character development from the last book was nearly completely ignored in this one. To which I will add that Colfer doesn't ever seem to pick up on what he left off, this book and the others before it.
The beginnings and endings of these books have been consistently disappointing. The beginnings because they never pick up where the last end left off, and the endings because we never get to see into the issues of the character's personal lives.
In every book, the characters essentially stumble upon some deep-seated problems in their own lives, and say "we'll have to talk about that later", because they have to rush ever on to stop the bad guy from doing whatever, and we never get to see those moments when the characters can take their lives off the back burner, because Colfer never shows us the aftermath.
And, in all honesty, the first chapter of "The Atlantis Complex" is easily the worst bit of writing I've ever seen Colfer publish. Sorry for the harsh words but...man.
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« Reply #9 on: September 01, 2010, 09:27:45 PM » |
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IMO, the story started off a bit frosty (no pun intended, but there were times I thought that Eoin seemed to be going in a completely different direction). But eventually it became apparent that he wanted to think outside the box on this one, and the Atlantis Complex changed Artemis' character in a way that makes me feel like I hardly knew him. More than that, it puts the previous stories on a level that looked relatively simple compared to all the issues in this book. After that, the story began to pick up in pace, and I like all the new ideas Eoin is getting. For one, Turnball Root's death with Leonor was unexpected, and refreshingly heroic. I also liked how Artemis turned the Atlantis Complex to his advantage and thwarted the plan to kill everyone aboard the hospital ship (I forgot what it was called, but oh well). And it was really interesting to see how Holly conversed with Trouble Kelp, as it was the first time we see it directly since she dropped out of time for three years. But overall, I think this was a great book. It was nice to see some of the older characters, good and bad alike, come back and play their roles according to the storyline. I suppose Holly was a bit distant from Artemis because of the lie he told her in the Time Paradox. While it might be hard to believe that she could keep a grudge, she was the victim to that event and it's harder to forget than you might think. And it was good to see Foaly get out of the office once in a while, it does him some good  |
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« Reply #10 on: September 03, 2010, 12:08:48 AM » |
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I feel that Mr. Colfer didn't stay with the character development. I mean Artemis's relationship with Holy was totally different and Foaly acted like he was eating a different sack of oats, and Mulch almost faded into obscurity. The characters were interacting with each other like it was the second book. The humor was a great redeeming quality, and I always enjoy reading about Artemis Fowl no matter what
Yeah, I agree. Did you also feel like near the end he kinda just ended it? Like he was writing, then was just like "I'm tired of writing this, so I'll just end it in the next few pages"? I loved the book, but.... Yaaaa.......I thought the book would be thicker since the series kinda got thicker on the way but.... |
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« Reply #11 on: September 03, 2010, 03:33:33 PM » |
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I feel that Mr. Colfer didn't stay with the character development. I mean Artemis's relationship with Holy was totally different and Foaly acted like he was eating a different sack of oats, and Mulch almost faded into obscurity. The characters were interacting with each other like it was the second book. The humor was a great redeeming quality, and I always enjoy reading about Artemis Fowl no matter what
Yeah, I agree. Did you also feel like near the end he kinda just ended it? Like he was writing, then was just like "I'm tired of writing this, so I'll just end it in the next few pages"? I loved the book, but.... Yaaaa.......I thought the book would be thicker since the series kinda got thicker on the way but.... There must've been a lot of pressure on him anyway... my mom is a writer, and she is really busy because she has to finish this book she is writing by a certain time... I could see how someone would rush that, or try to end it earlier |
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« Reply #12 on: September 03, 2010, 10:18:04 PM » |
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I feel that Mr. Colfer didn't stay with the character development. I mean Artemis's relationship with Holy was totally different and Foaly acted like he was eating a different sack of oats, and Mulch almost faded into obscurity. The characters were interacting with each other like it was the second book. The humor was a great redeeming quality, and I always enjoy reading about Artemis Fowl no matter what
Yeah, I agree. Did you also feel like near the end he kinda just ended it? Like he was writing, then was just like "I'm tired of writing this, so I'll just end it in the next few pages"? I loved the book, but.... Yaaaa.......I thought the book would be thicker since the series kinda got thicker on the way but.... There must've been a lot of pressure on him anyway... my mom is a writer, and she is really busy because she has to finish this book she is writing by a certain time... I could see how someone would rush that, or try to end it earlier WHY DID WHOEVER MADE MR. COLFER RUSH DO SO? WHY? WHY DID THEY RUSH HIM SO!??!?!? |
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« Reply #13 on: September 03, 2010, 10:23:32 PM » |
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WHY DID WHOEVER MADE MR. COLFER RUSH DO SO? WHY? WHY DID THEY RUSH HIM SO!??!?!?
It wasn't rushed, it just seemed that way. There weren't any sub-plots. |
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« Reply #14 on: October 06, 2010, 01:59:50 AM » |
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WHY DID WHOEVER MADE MR. COLFER RUSH DO SO? WHY? WHY DID THEY RUSH HIM SO!??!?!?
It wasn't rushed, it just seemed that way. There weren't any sub-plots. Yeah, I noticed that the book seemed to be missing something...And the lack of a subplot really made it feel that way! *nod* |
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